Cliques in ewrestling?
When you run a community central to ewrestling with some semblance of popularity, you’re going to come across someone who pulls the ‘clique’ card when they don’t get their way. I’ve gotten more than my fair share of this over the years.
I’ve also been compared to Hitler, while you can’t really deny that Hitler was good at leading, he probably wasn’t someone you wanted to invite over for Yahtzee. My guess is Hitler cheated at Yahtzee. Fucking loser.
There’s the constant ‘dictator’ comments, the various ‘bias’, the ‘favoritism’, the sexy whore comments and you get the message. The last one hasn’t happened yet by the way, I just expect it to for some reason.
These words don’t bother me, I mean, I run a pretend wrestling resource website. I’m not making laws here, and I damn sure ain’t getting paid much so what do I really have to gain by being some tyrannical asshole?
The word that does tend to ruffle a feather is when someone starts an argument, loses pretty decisively with points given by a group of people and then runs off, leaving the “Kliq” bomb behind to explode.
Let’s do a little High School 101:
If dozens of people call you a dork each day, give you wedgies, shove your head in a toilet you might want to re-consider every one else being wrong.
This is the mentality of someone that plays the kliq card.
They usually start a big fight because they can’t seem to control their attitude, or snide commentary, they get dealt with from all sides and then they lose and have nothing else to defend themselves with so they cry foul and call everyone on the forums a kliq.
Why does this bother me exactly? I am not really sure. The real “Kliq” was one of the greatest groups in professional wrestling history, they brought PW into the mainstream, they changed the salary game forever. I’d be honored to be compared to them.
However, in EW forums when the word kliq is used, you might as well be Kramer in a night club.
Personally, I’ve done my damnedest to make RoughKut.com the only place on the net where anyone can feel welcome… until they act like a fucking jackass that is. There is no elitism on this website, I made my name by giving publicity to any and every efed that comes along, even the ones that suck bricks.
What people need to understand is, when you are given ‘free speech‘ that doesn’t mean only you have that ability.
If you go spouting off at the mouth and then you find that the majority of the forums don’t agree with you, they have the EXACT same right to voice their opposing opinion as you did when you began it.
What I’m saying is, free speech isn’t free. There are consequences to all actions. For example:
You: Hay! Anyone want to run my cool new efed with me? I need 13 staff members!
Guy: What will you be doing?
You: I provide the space!
Guy: So you do nothing then… right.
Guy 2: Your feds have all failed because you do this same thing each time.
You: Hay! I haveĀ a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to open whatever the fuck I want, whenever I want!!!
Guy 2: But you haven’t given anyone reason to believe you’ve changed, why should anyone join!?
Guy 3: Oh? This guy again! I’d avoid his feds. 4th fed now?
You: You guys ain’t the end all be all of this game! Leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone!
Guy 2: Dude, you haven’t changed a bit!
You: I AIN’T LISTENING TO THIS!!! You guy just attack my fed for no reason…
YOU’RE A KLIQ!!!!!!!! *World explodes*
You then run off to other communities spreading the anti-gospel of RK, and how they gang raped you and your mother and should be avoided at all costs. They also have this habit of wanting their account deleted so they never have to be forced to visit our forums and login again. lol Gotta laugh when that happens.
My humble suggestion is if you’re at the butt end of an angry mob, always, always take the high road.
On my forums, because I can only speak for my own forums there are no ‘cliques’, the people come from all over the ew world and some of them might be friends, but there’s no evil backstage group of associates that hold all the cards and conspire against people. There’s a group of faces that you see posting more often than others, but that can be easily changed by POSTING MORE. There’s no hierarchy to that, just do it.
I usually see just as many people in disagreement as in agreement of a situation, the negative tends to get more attention however.
Now the question is, do these magical kliqs really exist.
Of course they do, there’s always a group of guys with a common bond that only seek to serve themselves and are immature and cause havoc.
A Clique in it itself, didn’t start with pro-wrestling, it’s been used forever to describe a group of people in an exclusive group that tend to cause problems for others. We’ve dealt with this since John Travolta sang “Summer Lovin” with Olivia Newton John, the t-birds, greasers, preppies all the way up to now where you have goths, skaters and this new generation of Jersey Guidos.
Yeah, so cliques not only exist, but are rampant in any social circle. By the way, anyone else notice a troubling similarity to this photo and the photo of the WWE ‘Kliq’?
Dealing with them is simple, you just take away the attention they desperately need to live. They are like vampires, they feed off your negative reactions to their “coolness”. This negative reaction is what gets them in positions of power in the first place. They are the cool ones, they are what the people want so they get what they want.
This isn’t as easy as I said it, sometimes they are very powerful and as a last resort it’s best to just avoid them and whatever circle they hang in completely. It might even not be worth the trouble to take them on. The place that allows them to run rampant should be avoided anyway.
If you see cliquish behavior developing in your efed, it’s best to just nip in in the bud.
This isn’t always going to be an easy decision, because there are always exceptions. For instance, there’s an on going insider on the Kamp about “HWO” which is the Hondo World Order. It’s dedicated to Jack Hondo, a long time and well respected member and honestly I have no idea how it all truly started. However, these guys are just having fun with it, they don’t use it as a position of influence.
The moment they start making demands or threatening to leave, this is where the problem starts and at that very moment you should make a decision. Once someone gives me this sort of ultimatum, I tend to lean towards THEM leaving. I don’t hold anyone hostage, you don’t have to be here. If someone else has that kind of power over you, to make you want to LEAVE a community then it sounds more like the problem is you then the person you hate.
I’ve been put in this cliquish position many times, where I had to pick the newbie over the cool guy who makes everyone laugh. I will usually pick the little guy, unless he’s really a problem.
Now I’m just tired, babbling and trying to multi-task, so that means this one is a wrap.
May the horse be with you, young Jedi

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3 comments
Mr. Huntley on January 14, 2010 at 4:38 am
Hmm.. lol.. I wonder if anything was fresh on his mind when this was written…
Kut on January 19, 2010 at 1:21 am
Yeah, that’s usually how it works.
Judas on January 23, 2010 at 7:55 pm
I agree with you for the most part but I have witnessed incidents on the forums where a lot of people did side with Mr. Cool Guy for the sole purpose of who he is but gave no opinions of their own as to why he was right.