Staff wrestling in efeds?
Let’s be honest, I’ll try to be general but this is basically dealing with Fed-Heads holding titles in their own efed.
First, lemme shank Nero Cain, long time forum member here and current owner of the Jesus Fed, RKW (f
or the topic idea). I call it Jesus fed because every time I kill it, it gets resurrected three days later by someone. It also walks on water and cures the blind… makes a mean baked fish and wine too.
BTW: Please, feel free to send me any topic you’d like to hear my take on and I’ll make your monkey ass famous and post it right here on the most visited website on the internet… that involves pretending to wrestle… and starts with an R. Man, do you use “an” before R? Anyways.
Yeah, so.
Do you run an efed and hold gold?
Not a good look, in my opinion. There’s a few reasons and most of them deal with your reputation. As I’ve said
numerous times, your rep is the single most important thing you have. Once it goes bad, it’s hard to get it back.
Remember: Repetition = members – Reputation = Good members.
1. Shows signs of desperation. This looks like you can’t get solid members, so you participate and obviously are the best on your roster. There is nothing good about this to me. The biggest defense for this is almost always “It’s just a storyline”. YEEEAH, the same storyline done by Vince on a regular basis and WCW and TNA and possibly ECW.
That’s not a good argument my friend, mainly because it’s way overdone already. There’s no real good reason I can think of for a fed-head to hold a title.
2. Comes across as you just wanted to hold a title and couldn’t get it done otherwise. People are going to think, and I know this for a fact, that you just want to hold a title and you want as many people to know that you hold a title, so you HIRE people to know that you hold a title.
3. You don’t have fucking TIME to be in your fed. Seriously, do you really have time to participate in your fed? Running a fed is a JOB, a hard, backbreaking, almost fruitless job. That is if you run a quality fed. Do you really have time to book yourself in the main-event, roleplay and then judge yourself the winner? Then write the results and glorify yourself in the match? Yeah, yeah, I know this doesn’t happen.. in YOUR fed.You give all your members all the glory by holding the title for them, it’s pretty heavy.
Now that I probably have fed-heads cringing in their computer chairs, I’d like to give some pros to holding gold in your own fed.
1. …
2. …
3. Fuck.
Can’t think of a single good reason. Call me crazy but I think you guys are intelligent enough to come up with your own ideas for stories. Unless you are some twisted, glory hound I don’t see a single valid reason for this.
Do you disagree? I’d sure like to hear it. There’s a comment section below… no need to hold your filthy tongues.
STAFF ON THE ROSTER
Now here’s something we can work with.
I don’t see anything wrong with your staff being on your roster, in fact, I made this mandatory when I ran RKW. I think everyone SHOULD devote time to making the fed the greatest fed. Everyone should have a small part in getting the results together, judging and running the show. This is not television, this is a group effort. It’s a multiplayer game.
The fed head should have the role as the organizer and final word, but your members should be involved in the show.
Unlike the fed-head being in the main-event, much less the roster, I don’t see any cons to staff being roster members.
Not to mention how hard it is to even find members these days, face it, you need all the help you can get.
Stay thirsty my friends.
AND COMMENT.
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16 comments
Jerzey on October 30, 2009 at 12:41 am
I’m staff in SCCW, and I have a lower card title, but it’s also an angle based division, does that mean I suck?
I imagine if I was incredibly terrible, I’d probably start my own fed, get a decent amount of roster, then give myself all of the belts, too…
Luckily for me, I don’t suck, and don’t need to rely on such underhanded tactics.
Kut on October 30, 2009 at 12:57 am
Doesn’t mean you suck, but I see no reason for a fed-head to hold a title. Depends on what position in staff you are.
I don’t think you said you were a fed-head
Thanks for the comment!
Graves on October 30, 2009 at 1:13 am
I’m a staffer in PWX and at the moment, I’m acting as an enhancement talent or “jobber to the stars” kinda like what Tommy Dreamer is doing now and in the old ECW.
Sally S on October 30, 2009 at 8:21 am
I agree 100%. Thou I would mention that owners-in-their-own-feds also bring up the fact that ‘others’judge their RP’s. These “others” are of course friends, otherwise how would the owner know them, so while the owner gets their matches judged by friends the rest of the roster does not. And to solidify their place, they “ASK” the roster if it’s OK to RP there. But we all know you have to say yes, otherwise you are not a team player or are not 100% behind the dedicated owner.
Yeah, that’s fair.
Maybon on November 1, 2009 at 3:58 pm
What about ex-owners who now hold championships in the fed’s they used to own?
Kut on November 1, 2009 at 8:13 pm
An ex-owner wouldn’t be a fed-head.
Tequila on November 2, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Some true stuff here. I personally hate it when fed heads are champions on their own fed, it’s like, how is that rewarding for you? When I won our world title in my fed (an unexpected but fair victory through a tournament) I couldn’t wait to lose it.
Echo Aka Samm on November 3, 2009 at 7:08 pm
I have seen many feds where fed heads compete and get titles in their own feds….i personally do not think it is fair, even if other people judge those matches, they should not compete for titles….staff members are ok imo, most staff members are just match writers anyway…
fed heads i don’t mind being involved in the fed as rpers because yes some do have the time, but they shouldn’t be able to compete for titles.
I have seen staff members as the top champions and well it takes away from the rest of the talent.
Triple B on November 4, 2009 at 12:34 am
While I could POSSIBLY see a fed-head getting a lower level title for some sort of storyline, or something that they were working on, I can see NO reason that they should EVER hold the World Title or \Big\ Title in their fed.
I’ve heard alot of excuses of \My World Champ Quit\ and stuff like that. Ok, so they quit. You didn’t have a #1 Contender to put it on? You didn’t have ONE person on the roster worthy of holding it? And then you wonder why your World Champ quit. Probably has something to do with the same reasons you put a belt on yourself.
If I’m reviewing a fed, and the fed head is the World Champ, I see major problems with that.
LJB on November 10, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Good read Kut I agree with everything you said.
The Bad guy on December 23, 2009 at 9:42 am
I just read this article and, well low and behold, someone sees what I do. Apparently, in a fed I recently left, it is ok for the owner to have 7 or 8 characters, one be the World Champion, one be the Hardcore or “Xtreme” champion, and is now in the running with THREE of her teams against one lone team of different handlers.
Her reason…”It’s not my fault I am a better roleplayer.”
To be a fedhead and hold titles is VERY ridiculous. As you said, it shows she couldn’t hack it anywhere else and gives her the right to manipulate people into judging her matches her way, which is very unfair to those who have stuck their hard work into it, only to be called stupid and not playing their character right.
This was an excellent read and feel many fed heads should read this and think. Now we know why e-fedding is going down the drain.
Jiso on December 24, 2009 at 6:54 pm
This is a touchy subject because it is possible to do this objectively. I’ve worked with staff members who were champions (including the boss) and when I have match decisions have been judged by other people in the fed who weren’t involved in the match at hand.
I can see how a lot of people would do this just to “hold championships” which is a joke in itself but when dealing with honest people the issue doesn’t come up.
The Bad guy on December 28, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I agree with what you have said Jiso, but the problem (and I know of it first hand) with the example I gave is this…her whole reasoning behind it is no one gave her a shot and held her down and yada yada because “i’m a girl” so I made sure they knew I could do it here.
As I said, her own fed. One title I can see…but two, going on three AND one of them being the top one…no. That is too much.
Kut on December 29, 2009 at 1:21 am
Well, I don’t have a problem with “staff” holding titles. I think the roster should be active with administrative functions.
The problem is when the OWNER is holding a title. I just can’t think of a single good reason for this.
Can you?
IanAxeTim on January 5, 2010 at 3:41 am
99% of the time it is an excuse for the owner to have a belt because he can’t do it elsewhere, but it is possible, under a more lax definition of fedhead, to have it be fair.
Condition 1: The fedhead is really just the guy who pays for the domain while essentially a large group of people (staff) run the site together.
Condition 2: The voting/decision making process is completely transparent to the entire fed and there is never a withholding of any staff member votes or reasons why someone may have lost.
That said, is there ever a GOOD reason to just put a belt on the fedhead? No.
The Bad guy on January 11, 2010 at 2:16 pm
The other problem I see now, going in with this whole thing, is how they “sit” on said titles. They take something that they can’t win anywhere else, kills the love and/or drive for a hobby that they love and then deny people from taking the title from them saying it is a “stupid idea because that would come from nowhere. Come back when you have a GOOD idea.”
Saying things like that makes me wonder how staff members are STILL working with this fed/fedhead.